There’s only so much that a person can hold before everything collapses.” With Presence now in theaters, Vogue spoke to Liu and Liang about preparing for their unconventional film—and their own relationships to the paranormal.

“Presence” is a beautifully executed vision of a rather mediocre script. What makes it interesting is the POV “gimmick,” which Soderbergh demonstrates as a legitimate mode of cinematic storytelling. His camera movements take on such a human quality that we become emotionally connected to it as another character in the story.